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Kohberger to accept plea deal, life in prison without parole

The media has been trained on Idaho the last 24 or so hours.

Most of the focus was on the tragic killing of a couple firefighters who were ambushed while responding to a brush fire in the northwest part of the state.

Turn the page a day and the focus is back on the November 2022 murders of four University of Idaho students at a rental home in Moscow.

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The defendant in the case, former Washington State University grad student Bryan Kohberger, has reportedly offered to plead guilty in exchange for avoiding the death penalty should he had been convicted. The trial in Boise was scheduled to begin Aug. 11.

While I will have more thoughts on this plea deal later this week, what are your initial thoughts?

Is the plea deal the prosecution offered fair to the families of victims Maddie Mogen, Kaylee Goncalves, Xana Kernodle and Ethan Chapin?

Is this justice for the families?

Are the families better off not having to sit through what would have been a painful trial?

More to come….

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What questions would you have as a Kohberger jury member? (Part 2)

We think there will be a trial this August in the State of Idaho vs. Bryan Kohberger quadruple murder case.

It was Nov. 13, 2022 when Kaylee Goncalves, Maddie Mogen, Xana Kernodle and Ethan Chapin were discovered murdered at 1122 King Road in Moscow, Idaho. The slayings of the four University of Idaho students shook the community and beyond. 

Shortly after Christmas, Kohberger, a Washington State University grad student, was arrested across the country in Pennsylvania for the four murders and a charge of felony burglary.

Given Kohberger refused his right to a speedy trial, the case has dragged on some two and a half years. If the trial does begin in early August, it will be a welcome relief for many people.

That said, what questions would you have in this case if you were a sitting jury member later this summer?

Among the questions I would want answered by the prosecution and defense would be the following:

  • Why did BK as it appears take a photo of himself at home in his bathroom only hours after the m*rders took place? I take my share of selfies over time. That said, I know of only one of mine taken in the bathroom and I was being goofy in the photo.
  • Did any female students at Washington State University where BK was a grad student ever report him to be creepy or even st*lking them?
  • Why was a knife used in the m*rders and not a gun? While a gun certainly can make more noise at the moment it is fired, many people can be taken out with a single bullet. A knife attack unless hitting a main artery or slashing the throat tends to be messier and can be noisier. That is especially if the victim is trying to fight back.
  • Is there any video or cell phone photos of Xana and Ethan from approximately 9 p.m. to 1:30 a.m. on Nov. 12-13? They were reportedly at his frat for a period of time. Xana’s dad also supposedly talked to her at some point by phone then.
  • What is it that Maddie supposedly told bartender Adam as has been oftentimes mentioned? Was it something that could have led to one or more individuals wanting to harm her?
  • What is the best guess to the order of the four dying? Knowing the order could better define if one of the four was in fact the intended target.
  • Could any of the four possibly been saved with immediate medical attention? Given all the commotion going on in the middle of the night, was Dylan aware or not something bad had happened? She supposedly saw a masked intruder in the home. If that is true, why not go check on your roommates once safe to do so and not nearly eight hours later? My gut still tells me that one or more of the victims likely bled out. I doubt we will truly ever know if one or more had a chance if given fast help. Even the medical experts can’t say with 100 percent certainty.
  • Finally, why did no neighbors apparently hear or see anything when the m*rders went down? Although the reported timeline was the middle of the night, that neighborhood is very condensed. One would think someone heard or saw something coming from the area of the home.

If you were a juror and talking in a closed sessions with your fellow jurors, what would you want most to know or have clarified before rendering a verdict?

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What questions would you have as a Kohberger jury member? (Part 1)

We think there will be a trial this August in the State of Idaho vs. Bryan Kohberger quadruple murder case.

It was Nov. 13, 2022 when Kaylee Goncalves, Maddie Mogen, Xana Kernodle and Ethan Chapin were discovered murdered at 1122 King Road in Moscow, Idaho. The slayings of the four University of Idaho students shook the community and beyond.

Shortly after Christmas, Kohberger, a Washington State University grad student, was arrested across the country in Pennsylvania for the four murders and a charge of felony burglary.

Given Kohberger refused his right to a speedy trial, the case has dragged on some two and a half years. If the trial does begin in early August, it will be a welcome relief for many people.

That said, what questions would you have in this case if you were a sitting jury member later this summer?

Among the questions I would want answered by the prosecution and defense would be the following:

  • Was Bryan Kohberger infatuated with any of the victims in the home? If yes, which one and why?
  • Had BK ever come in contact with any of the victims before Nov. 13, 2022?
  • Was it common for BK to drive around in the middle of the night? If so, what was typically the reason for this?
  • Why was BK’s phone on prior to the murders and then off for a period of time before going back on?
  • If BK is the correct person charged with these murders, why does it appear he was not injured nor had any known blood in his vehicle or apartment tied to the case?
  • What is the exact timeline police believe these killings took place? While it is possible for one individual to commit such crimes, it has been thought the timeline could be under 15 minutes. That is not much time to cover two floors in relative darkness, meet some resistance, and then do some cleaning up of the scene.
  • What was the order of death for the victims? Although it has been guessed, I do not ever remember seeing exact confirmation of this key detail. Knowing the order could narrow down if in fact one person was targeted or it was a random burglary and murders scene.
  • Why did surviving roommates Dylan Mortensen and Bethany Funke wait nearly 8 hours to call for help? This after Mortensen had reportedly spotted a masked intruder on the second floor during the event.
  • It is alleged that Mortensen heard a male say something along the lines of “It’s OK, I’m going to help you” in relation to words said in the area of Kernodle’s second floor bedroom. Say for a moment that was the killer talking to Kernodle or Chapin who well could have been seriously wounded by now. Would a masked intruder say that to a victim and expect them to believe help had arrived? Why would the killer take the mask off and say that to a victim?
  • What was happening with Kaylee’s dog, Murphy, during the eight or so hours from the believed timeline of the murders to when 911 was called and police arrived? Are we to believe a young dog would simply sleep for the most part through all this?
  • Did neither Mortensen nor Funke go up to the kitchen on the second floor for food all morning before help came? Hard to believe that was the case. If one or both went up to the kitchen, did they not stop and knock on Kernodle’s door or wonder where the two roommates on the third floor were? One of my big questions for many months now, WHY NOT GO AND CHECK/GET THE TWO OLDEST WOMEN IN THE HOUSE DURING ALL THIS TIME? THAT IS ESPECIALLY AFTER SEEING A MASKED INTRUDER IN THE HOME AND ENDLESS CALLS AND TEXTS TO KAYLEE AND MADDIE GOING UNANSWERED. I STILL HAVE NEVER UNDERSTOOD THAT.
  • Why would Kohberger leave a non-death penalty state like Washington and drive across to death penalty state Idaho and allegedly murder four students? Keep in mind Washington State University has around double the student population of the University of Idaho. As such, there would be plenty of female targets for him at Wazzu and even within walking distance. Why risk going across the border on a Saturday night/Sunday morning when local police would be out looking for say drunk drivers, noise offenses etc. on and around the campus in Moscow?

Those are just “some” of the questions I would want answers to. There will be more to come.

So, what questions would you want clear answers to if you served on the jury?

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Will the Dateline episode haunt the defense or prosecution in Kohberger trial?

I finally got chance last evening to watch the recent Dateline on NBC episode of “The Terrible Night on King Road” that aired earlier this month.

Aside from coming up with a rather boring title for this specific show, the episode was nonetheless interesting to say the least.

As someone who has followed the case from day one and stood feet away from the quadruple murder scene on two visits to Moscow back in 2023, I have been drawn to this tragedy.

A single murder case as tragic as it is can be rather riveting to follow. When there are four victims involved and they are college students, you have all the makings of a tragic soap opera. Sadly, this was all too real and not a TV production.

With that in mind, here are a few takes on the two hours of TV I watched last night:

  • Defendant Bryan Kohberger was certainly not painted in any positive light. While he doesn’t deserve any special treatment, NBC all but convicted him in this episode. Moving the summer trial to Boise from Moscow is supposed to improve chances of him getting a fair trial. Finding 12 impartial jurors may well have been made more difficult after this two-hour show.
  • If looking at pictures of women in bikinis online, reading up on serial killer cases, using gloves to handle garbage, being awkward at social events, driving around towns in the middle of the night etc. is considered suspicious and even criminal behavior, most guys and probably even some women would have been locked by now. In fact, our jails and prisons would have been beyond full. I have extensively studied Ted Bundy and Danny Rolling for years now. It does not mean I’m going to go out and knife a number of college students or anyone for that matter.
  • The show gave the theory that the killer started their rampage on the third floor of the home before going back to the second floor. It is alleged that Maddie Mogen and Kaylee Goncalves on the third floor sharing a bed were the first two victims. Upon hearing some commotion upstairs, victim Xana Kernodle began going up the stairs before being confronted with the killer. She was then reportedly chased back to her room and killed along with her boyfriend (Ethan Chapin) who had been spending the night there.
  • Survivors and fellow roommates Dylan Mortensen and Bethany Funke were reportedly awakened by commotion upstairs and scared by it all, yet waited nearly eight hours to call 911. I’ve been over this portion of the case many times before, so no need to rehash all my thoughts. That said, I still do NOT understand and no one has provided a logical reason as to why the two never went to the third floor to check on or get Maddie and Kaylee during all of this. They were the two oldest women in the home and one would think the most responsible. As such, with noise and Dylan claiming she spotted a masked intruder in the home shortly after the four victims were attacked, why would you not go and check on or get the two on the third floor when safe to do so? Being drunk, young women, scared etc. doesn’t cut it for most people.
  • The episode also claims that Dylan partially saw Xana on the floor of her bedroom and allegedly passed out from likely drinking. There is never any mention of lots of blood being seen on or around Xana. If this crime was as brutal as the police and others seem to portray it as, how could Dylan not see any blood? Once again, while I do not think Dylan or Bethany were directly involved, their eight or so hours of actions or rather in-actions are strange and questionable to say the least.
  • Dateline barely mentions that Xana and Ethan were at a frat party on the evening before the killings took place. There have been rumors (take them for what they are worth) that there was an incident at the party that may well have involved Ethan and possibly Xana too. While it may be just a rumor, could something from the party have spilled over hours later to 1122 King Road? While it is certainly possible for one person to do these killings in less than 15 minutes, I still feel multiple people were involved in some manner. If they were, that means one or more are walking free two and a half years later.

If you’ve watched the Dateline episode, what is your take on what you saw? Do you think it could help or hurt either side?

*PLEASE keep in mind this blog is for adult discussion on a tragic case that many of us have become invested in. More than happy to share thoughts on it even if we agree to disagree. What won’t be tolerated is name-calling, rude remarks etc.

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Should Dylan and Bethany testify in the Idaho 4 trial?

The time is ticking closer to what may be the trial of the century to date.Dylan Mortensen and Bethany Funke

When the State of Idaho vs. Bryan Kohberger presumably gets going in early August, it will be close to three years since Maddie Mogen, Kaylee Goncalves, Xana Kernodle, and Ethan Chapin were murdered in a rental home minutes from the main grounds of the University of Idaho. The quadruple slayings have not only gripped a good portion of the U.S. the last two and a half years, they have also garnered worldwide attention.

As another pre-trial hearing was winding down on May 15, one of the focal points the last two-and-half or so years has been the two young women who lived in the home at 1122 King Road along with three of the deceased roommates.

Dylan Mortensen and Bethany Funke were reportedly at home on two different floors when the killings took place.

First we were told the two had been asleep like everyone else supposedly in the home was when the killer/s struck. We later learned that the two had reportedly been texting and calling one another for a period of time prior to sunrise. If the latter is in fact true as phone records appear to indicate, wouldn’t they have some idea of what had tragically taken place on the second and third floors, respectively? Mortensen also told police she had seen a male figure in dark clothing and wearing a mask literally walk right by her as she carefully peered out her bedroom door on the second floor in the early morning hours.

While I have constantly said I do not believe either young woman was directly involved in the murders, I do feel one or both know more details than we have been told. If so, shouldn’t they be compelled to testify this August?

Even though the pair were interviewed by authorities (we know Mortensen was for sure, did they ever submit to a lie detector test if asked? If not, why was one never presented to them?

More interestingly, could it be one or both were not in the home at the time the four victims died? Phone records show the two conversing during what we believe was shortly after the killings took place, but were the two in fact in the home at the time? Could one or both have been nearby but not in fact inside the residence?

Finally, Mortensen claims to have seen a figure in the home with not only dark clothing and a mask, but bushy eyebrows. If the state will try and claim that figure was Kohberger, how reliable would Mortensen’s words be at trial? Reports are she was intoxicated at the time, so take what we’ve been told was her description of what she saw with a grain of salt.

While it is Kohberger and not the two young women on trial this August, Mortensen and Funke may well find themselves in the limelight once again.

So, should either side call the two to testify?

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Why did Kaylee and Maddie go unchecked for nearly 8 hours?

Whether you think Bryan Kohberger is guilty as sin, may be involved with others, or is completely innocent, so many questions remain in the killings of four Idaho students in November 2022.

With the recent details showing survivors Dylan Mortensen and Bethany Funke were texting and even talking in-person after the murders took place on the second and third floors of the 1122 King Road residence, various questions still go unanswered. While those answers may come out at trial this summer, one question I have had for a while now is simple.

Why did no one living in the home (Dylan and Bethany) or several students who later came to the residence before authorities arrived at approximately 12-12:30 p.m. local time ever go check on Kaylee or Maddie on the third floor?

As the story goes, there were two victims on the third floor (Kaylee and Maddie) and two on the middle floor (Xana and Ethan). Since their vehicles were at the home all morning and after 12, wouldn’t one of the two survivors or friends who came to the home wonder where Kaylee and Maddie were? They supposedly texted/called them and got no response. As such, wouldn’t you go up and knock on their door/s at some point that morning? And where was Kaylee’s dog all this time? Hard to imagine the dog was not barking at some point during the morning.

As someone who has lived in a multi-story home both with family and roommates, the home at 1122 King Road was not some huge estate spread out on several acres. This makes it all the more confusing that there was no apparent contact with the two victims and the top floor until their lifeless bodies were sadly discovered.

While I have never accused Dylan or Bethany with being directly involved, their stories have many holes. If I was a juror this summer in Boise, there are MANY things I would want to know from these two.

One of the biggest questions I’d want an answer to, why you apparently never went and checked on the two oldest roommates on the third floor, especially after one of you said they saw a masked individual in the home in the very early morning hours.

So, why do you think no one apparently checked on Kaylee and Maddie for nearly eight hours, especially when their vehicles were out front and they couldn’t be reached on their phones?

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Details Emerge from Kohberger’s Pre-Trial Hearing

It is more than two years since four University of Idaho students were murdered at a home on 1122 King Road in Moscow.

Maddie Mogen, Kaylee Goncalves, Xana Kernodle and Ethan Chapin died sometime in the early morning hours of Nov. 13, 2022 at the since torn down residence. The defendant in the case, Bryan Kohberger, was arrested nearly 3,000 miles away in late December of that year at his parents home in Pennsylvania.

On Wednesday in Boise, Kohberger was back in court for a consequential hearing to iron out some more of the pre-trial details ahead of a scheduled trial this August. The trial was moved from Moscow to Boise due to the notion that Kohberger would not receive a fair trial in the town where the deaths took place.

At Wednesdays hearing, the following emerged:

  • The terms psychopath and sociopath will be barred from the trial;
  • Judge Steven Hippler noted that he will not “police” language from both the defense and prosecution in his courtroom, but encouraged both sides to be careful with language they and individuals they call to testify use. There is concern that using wrong words could prejudice the case and possibly lead to a mistrial;
  • Members of Kohberger’s family will reportedly be called by the state as witnesses to his lifestyle prior to and shortly after the m*rders. Hippler suggested he would like to see them called early on in the trial so that they then can be in the courtroom to watch and support their family member moving on in the trial. Kohberger has two sisters along with his parents. Kohberger was visiting his parents in their Pennsylvania home when he was arrested shortly after Christmas of 2022;
  • Hippler will permit a 3D model of the former home on King Road to be seen at trial. As someone who has been to the home twice (outside only), I argued constantly that the home should have been left up until the trial was over. While I get the security costs and eyesore to the neighborhood, you can’t replace seeing the real thing. Even though it was reported authorities dismantled portions of the home inside during the investigation and a jury would not have been allowed in it during trial, even seeing it from the outside and walking the perimeter could have been proven valuable. My thoughts on the case changed somewhat after walking the area twice;
  • Testimony for the prosecution will be permitted regarding Kohberger’s reported purchase of a KA-BAR knife, sheath and sharpener early in 2022. The online Amazon purchase was reportedly up for debate because the defense argued anyone in his family could have bought it with a joint online account. Hippler stated that the account in fact was tied to Kohberger and not his family.

While there is still more to hammer out in pre-trial hearings, it certainly looks like we are headed towards an August trial.

My early take is that while Kohberger could well be convicted on circumstantial evidence alone, the state has a sizable job on its hands to convince 12 jurors beyond a reasonable doubt the defendant caused all this carnage by himself in such a short amount of time.

While it is certainly possible for one individual to do this, he or she would need exact precision and a little luck on their side.

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What do you think the trial verdict will be?

With the trial for alleged quadruple m*rderer Bryan Kohberger slated to begin later this summer in Idaho, any thoughts on what the verdict ultimately will be?

Kohberger is accused of m*rdering three University of Idaho roommates and the boyfriend of the youngest female. If convicted, he well could face the death penalty.

In having followed this case since day one, I think there is a good chance Kohberger could be convicted on circumstantial evidence alone.

His defense team has a number of things they will need to explain away to a jury of 12. That said, we do not to this day know if authorities found the knife used nor if they have a star witness or clear video evidence to show he in fact is responsible for this tragedy. My guess is we would have heard by now if they had a witness or video surveillance that clearly shows the defendant entering or leaving the home in the early morning hours of Nov. 13, 2022.

I can also see a scenario playing out where at least one juror says they do not have enough evidence to convict him and possibly send him to a death penalty sentencing in the next phase of the case.

While I do not believe the two surviving roommates were involved, their story post-mu*ders is strange to say the least. I also think while possible, the odds one individual did all this carnage in under 15 minutes is highly unlikely. You would need to know the layout of the home, how many people were there (including boyfriends spending the night), if guns and/or dogs were inside, and a little luck along the way too. IF Kohberger did this alone, he was not only quite good but also darn lucky.

With all that said, what do you think the final outcome will be later this year at trial?

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Sounds like some in the media have already convicted Kohberger

We are still months away from the trial of alleged k*ller Bryan Kohberger in the m*rders of four college students at the University of Idaho in November of 2022.

It is safe to say many people have made up their minds one way or the other on Kohberger’s guilt or innocence. For others, they still want to hear and see more evidence.

That said, this recent podcast all but convicts Kohberger of the crimes rightly or wrongly.

In going through the podcast, the subjects talk about the Amazon electronic trail of Kohberger involving a knife and sheath purchase some eight months prior to the crime. Sure, it looks damaging for the defense. That said, buying a weapon and actually committing a crime are two entirely different things.

Of more interest to me was the texting/phone call trail in the early morning hours between surviving roommates Dylan Mortensen and Bethany Funke.

I want to be clear that there is absolutely no evidence to show either Mortensen or Funke had anything to do with the m*rders. That said, their behavior on the morning of Nov. 13, 2022 is strange to say the least.

A few thoughts crossing my mind:

* The defense absolutely needs to explain the reported knife and sheath purchases by Kohberger. They also have to detail his reported searches on Amazon for a sheath after the m*rders. With that in mind, hard to believe that Kohberger waited some eight months to allegedly carry out the crime. This is one of the reasons I never bought into the allegations of stalking on his end. Keep in mind Kohberger had an apartment off-campus at Washington State University. Spending time on campus in Pullman, Kohberger would be around many coeds on a regular basis. Why allegedly drive miles away and cross the state line into Idaho to allegedly m*rder four young adults? Also keep in mind Idaho has the death penalty and Washington does not. Would you go and allegedly commit such a crime in a death penalty state?

* In the texting exchange between Mortensen and Funke, there is a reference to Xana reportedly wearing a black mask in the home. Given Xana and Kohberger were not close to the same height, one should be able to tell that the individual in the mask was not Xana and was in fact an intruder in the home. Would you go back to bed if you saw a stranger in your home masked up around 4ish in the morning? One thing we can now toss away is the idea that Mortensen and Funke slept through all of this as was initially theorized.

* I have lived with roommates back in the day. The idea that six of us (counting Ethan Chapin spending the night there) are all in the same house and two are worried about the other four in the home, yet do not go and check on them, is strange to say the least. I can’t wrap my head around the fact that Mortensen and Funke would not have gone and knocked on a door or doors when the former had seen someone in a mask in the middle of the night. To be texting for hours and waiting nearly eight hours to go knock on a door is not the norm to most people.

* While I’m happy both Mortensen and Funke survived this tragedy, they’re not kids and not victims. The four victims passed away sadly. I hope we get to hear from both survivors at trial as I feel their testimony will be important to the case for both sides. I also think it is important to hear from family members of the victims at trial. For instance, Ethan’s mom reportedly said 2 a.m. was such a dark hour that day. Why would she say such a thing? Also, if your daughter called early in the morning and mentioned about a masked individual in the home, would you not encourage her to check on housemates and/or call 911 early on?

While there is more to come in this case, I don’t see this as a slam-dunk case right now.

Kohberger may well be guilty, but it is up to Idaho to prove his guilt beyond a reasonable doubt and not the defense team’s job to prove his innocence.

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Would you convict Kohberger with what you know now?

We are still a number of months away from a trial for quadruple m*rder suspect Bryan Kohberger.

With that in mind, how confident are you in his guilt or innocence?

I have said since the day he was arrested in late 2022 that there certainly was a chance he was guilty. Authorities had to have enough reason to go and arrest him. Otherwise, he would have continued on with his life in Pullman, Washington or continued to spend time with his parents in Pennsylvania where he was ultimately taken into custody.

That said, Kohberger has been in custody now for more than two years. Given he refused the option of a speedy trial, he continues to be in custody in Idaho awaiting what many hope will be a summer trial.

So, as we wait on the trial, how convinced are you authorities have the right individual and that justice will ultimately prevail?

There is certainly going to be circumstantial evidence against Kohberger that could lead to a conviction.

Among the things he and defense most need to worry about:

  • Reported link to him to DNA on the knife sheath found in Maddie’s bed
  • His car reportedly being in the vicinity at the time of the m*rders
  • His cell phone reportedly pinging multiple times in the area of the home
  • Being unable to provide a solid alibi to where he was at the time of the m*rders
  • Reportedly buying a similar knife some 8 months prior to the tragic event.

Among the things the prosecution should be concerned about:

  • As of now, no clear eyewitness accounting of him/his exact vehicle in or near the home at the time of the m*rders
  • A definitive link between him and the victims
  • Reported DNA traces of other individuals found under a fingernail from Maddie
  • Surviving roommates strange actions for up to some 8 hours following the reported times of death for the victims
  • A jury not having been allowed to see the home for themselves. I don’t care how many pictures, videos, models etc. the authorities come up with. It is not the same as seeing it first-hand. Even though we were told jurors were not going to have been allowed to go inside if the home was still up, seeing it from the outside alone could be telling. I was to the outside of the home twice in 2023 and it gave me a different perspective than what I saw on TV
  • No notable past crime record for Kohberger.

I could see Kohberger getting convicted and escaping the death penalty in the sentencing phase of the trial.

I could also see this ending up in a mistrial and we are back to square one.

At the end of the day, here’s hoping they get it right for all our sakes.

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