Do you still think Bryan Kohberger is the guy?

Ever since the document dump began the other day after quadruple murderer Bryan Kohberger accepted his fate in a Boise courtroom, there has been much chatter online.Bryan Kohberger

For many people, Idaho got the right guy and the case is in essence over. For many others, dissecting the case is only just beginning.

That said, the unveiling of only a few of many documents has left me with more questions than answers.

While I have maintained from early on that I think Kohberger was involved, the latest document dump leads me to think even more so that others were too.

Yes, Kohberger confessed. No, others haven’t been arrested. That said, it does not mean authorities have given us all the information. It also doesn’t mean they have gotten all the details right.

After these latest tidbits came out in the last two days, I am focusing on the following:

  • Kaylee’s injuries – According to documents and her own father’s words, Kaylee Goncalves had several dozen stab wounds. She also had a broken nose and teeth knocked out. All of that tells me rage. It could also be payback or jealousy. Perhaps another female student had an issue with Kaylee. I find it hard to believe a stranger would beat the $hit out of Kaylee for no good reason. While it could have been Kohberger upset that Kaylee was an obstacle to him possibly being interested in harming only Maddie Mogen, Kaylee could have diverted his attention. In doing so, he went off on her. Then again, could a female or male student have done this in wanting to get back at her for some reason?
  • Xana’s injuries – Much like Kaylee, Xana was heavily abused, leading to some 50 stab wounds. She apparently fought back or at least tried to protect herself. In doing so, the killer went after her hard. While Xana likely ran into the perp either on the second or first floor stairs, she had time to get back to her bedroom. She was likely wounded at that point. I have to think she was screaming for her life. With Maddie and Kaylee already wounded and perhaps fatally, that left boyfriend Ethan Chapin, along with roommates Dylan Mortensen and Bethany Funke, to try and help her. Most thoughts are Ethan was passed out in Xana’s bed and probably did not put up a great deal of resistance if any. Still, this struggle could well have taken 10 or more minutes. With Moscow Police Department’s estimated timeline of the killings, could one person have done all this in that time frame and apparently left the home with little or no blood trail? Multiple people could have cleaned things up much more quickly.
  • Dylan and Bethany’s morning schedule – If you followed this case from early on, you know that Dylan and Bethany, the two surviving roommates at 1122 King Road, were on separate floors. Dylan supposedly saw a figure in black with a mask on walking past her second floor bedroom after she had partially opened her door several times. While she was not harmed, she reportedly went into a frozen state of shock and stayed in her bedroom to go back to sleep. Then we later heard that once the coast was clear, she bolted down to the first floor and Bethany’s room. We later discovered the two were texting their roommates, calling at least one parent, and even job hunting at one point of the morning online. All this time, their four slain roommates were on the two floors above them. One of the first things I wondered was did neither of them ever go upstairs to the second floor kitchen for food or drink? What about Kaylee’s dog Murphy on the third floor? Wouldn’t he have been periodically barking to go outside? Finally, close to noon, the two reached out to a fellow student or two for help. After they came to the house, it was then discovered by the male student (Hunter) that Xana and Ethan were dead. I still wonder, no one went up to the third floor to check on Maddie or Kaylee until the police arrived? While I again do not think Dylan and Bethany were in on the murders, their version of events that morning stinks to high heaven.

With there being no trial, with Kohberger not offering up any answers to that night/morning, we may never get the truth.

In the meantime, many of us will continue to have and ask questions.

For many of us, cases like this and things that do not add up lead to theories that some may even label conspiracies….

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Why did Bryan Kohberger say he was guilty?

Today’s sentencing hearing in a Boise courtroom for quadruple murderer Bryan Kohberger left me with more questions than answers. Yes, I already had many questions going into the hearing. Idaho 4

Sitting in a orange prison suit and viewing the proceedings quite stoically, Kohberger watched and listened as multiple family and friends of the deceased spoke out on the physical and mental impact the killings had on them.

The Nov. 13, 2022 deaths of Maddie Mogen, Kaylee Goncalves, Xana Kernodle, and Ethan Chapin captured not only much of the nation’s attention, but also parts of the world. No matter how any of us feel about the case, the victims can never be brought back to life.

Kohberger chose not to speak today when given the chance by the judge. Honestly, did we really think he would open up to the family and friends of the victims now?

I have made it known that while I think Kohberger was involved, I do not think he acted alone.

After hearing today’s Latah County press conference following the sentencing, I must admit I further question if we are getting all the facts.

I will just say for now that I think it would have been a 50-50 chance at best if the state would have gotten a guilty conviction at trial.

Today’s presser noting no known motive, no direct connection to Mogen or anyone else in the home for that matter, no murder weapon, no clear video or photos of Kohberger entering or leaving the home etc. leads me to believe the state got a gift. That is Kohberger willingly pleading guilty. The state must have felt as if it had been served a gift on a silver platter.

There is much more to say in upcoming blog posts.

Most notably what we saw and heard from family and friends today with their victim impact statements. I will save that for my next post.

Until then, more questions than answers on if the real killer is in fact behind bars or others walk freely among us….

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I’m not ready to believe Bryan Kohberger did this alone

For those like myself following the University of Idaho student murders the last two and a half years, it has been a long and windy road. Idaho 4

Bryan Kohberger, who recently offered a guilty plea to the quadruple murders to get the death penalty off the table, is slated to be sentenced this Wednesday (July 23) in an Idaho courtroom. When he is, it may be the last we see of him for a long time to come.

While I will not say he wasn’t involved in the deaths of Kaylee Goncalves, Maddie Mogen, Xana Kernodle and Ethan Chapin on Nov. 13, 2022, I won’t with 100 percent conviction say he acted alone.

Sure, no one else has been arrested and charged in the case. Yes, Kohberger admitted to the crimes and did not name any co-conspirators. That said, my gut tells me we are not getting the full story.

In a couple of previous posts, I noted that I had a number of questions still to this day. Honestly, the questions grow month after month.

Among the latest to cross my mind:

  • Why would Kohberger reportedly make a carving with a knife on the body of Chapin? That sounds like something quite personal. Kohberger likely had no known prior interaction with Chapin. As such, why such a personal act if in fact it is true?
  • If Kohberger had been staking out the house as many seem to think, would he have missed noticing that Chapin was spending much time there? Rumor is Chapin moved in with Kernodle. We believe some of his belongings (including golf clubs seen in a video inside a first floor room) were in the home at the time of the m*rders. So, wouldn’t Kohberger be concerned there was at least one sizable male in the home if he had planned to enter in the middle of the night? That is not to mention at least four vehicles out front in the driveway the early morning hours of the killings.
  • Why would you risk allegedly s*xually a$$aulting Mogen in her bedroom with numerous other people at home? The risk-reward factor there is way out of balance.
  • Why were roommates Dylan Mortensen and Bethany Funke spared? The first rule of committing such a heinous act of murder is never leaving witnesses behind who can finger you. As such, someone supposedly scoping out the home would know four women lived there regularly (Goncalves was back in town that weekend visiting after moving most of her belongings out in getting ready to graduate).
  • Will we get the full autopsy results with the gag order being lifted? While such a report may not pinpoint the exact time and cause of death for the four victims, it should provide some important clues. From the start, the law enforcement timeline of the deaths has been up for debate.
  • Why have we never scene pictures or videos of the removal of the bodies or leaked photos from the scene etc.? I know police reportedly kept the press off in the distance, but there were plenty of people in that neighborhood. I have never once seen body bags etc. going into or leaving that home.
  • Finally, can we say without a single doubt there is no drug connection to these tragic deaths? I will never buy the idea BK stalked Mogen for a number of reasons. So, what else could be the reason or reasons for these four being brutally slain?

Although the case may end to a degree with this week’s sentencing, I guarantee you the questions are not going anywhere….

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Kohberger plea deal leads to SO many questions

Today’s quadruple guilty pleas in a Boise courtroom by Bryan Kohberger have brought on so many questions in my mind. Bryan Kohberger

Yes, some of these questions have been with me for some two and a half years.

The tragic deaths of Maddie Mogen, Kaylee Goncalves, Xana Kernodle and Ethan Chapin in the early morning hours of Nov. 13, 2022 in a Moscow, Idaho rental home captured the attention of many people. That is both here at home and across the world.

That said, Kohberger will be sentenced on July 23 for the crimes he admitted to.

In the meantime, here are but a few of the questions I have:

  • If Maddie was in fact the target, why did Steve Goncalves say way back in the case that he (BK) did not need to go up to the third floor? Was Xana or Ethan on second floor the target. And how would BK know or not know Ethan was spending the night?
  • If Maddie was his goal, why not kidnap her at your time and choosing? Going into a home in the middle of the night and not knowing what is waiting for you is much more of a risk.
  • Given police had an approximate timeline of 15 minutes or less for all four m*rders, how did BK do it without a gun? A knife takes much more effort, especially in darker conditions. There should have been blood spray all over BK. Did he clean up real fast? And if you think BK did all this with only a knife in such a short time, why do you think that? Please don’t say because Ted Bundy could kill multiple people in a short amount of time.
  • If BK supposedly staked out the home, he would have known two more females lived there. Why take a chance on leaving any witnesses?
  • Why drive across the border into a death penalty state when you have double the student population at Washington State University. You could also blend in easier on the Wazzu campus and neighborhoods. It never quite made sense to me other than a possible drug sale or buy to go to a home in Moscow in the middle of the night.
  • Where is the knife? Where are the bloody clothes? While that part of the country is rather rural, you could still try and bury something or toss away and it ends up being discovered.
  • Will we ever discover why Dylan and Bethany f*cked around for nearly 8 hours before calling for help? And why was there never a mention of blood in the call? Surely someone had to see it if the m*rders were as bad as we were told.
  • Why the rush to tear down the home? Did one or more folks already know back in late 2023 there ultimately would not be a trial? If so, that is a problem
  • Why not go to trial? At worst, a guilty conviction and possible death sentence. At least you have chance of a mistrial, conviction but no death sentence, endless appeals etc. I do not get taking a plea deal here and essentially being a caged animal for however many years you go on to live.
  • Was Anne Taylor his best option? Obviously BK and his family did not have OJ type money to hire the best and the brightest. While I was impressed with Taylor early on, she did a disservice to her client at the end of the day while making lots of $$$.

While I have more questions, those are it for now.

What do you wonder about this tragic case?

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Would you have taken the Kohberger plea deal?

If all the reports from yesterday in fact play out in an Idaho courtroom Wednesday local time, accused quadruple murderer Bryan Kohberger will plead guilty in the murders of four University of Idaho students on Nov. 13, 2022. He is also facing a count of burglary.

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Kohberger, a former Washington State University grad assistant, is accused in the murders of Kaylee Goncalves (21), Maddie Mogen (21), Xana Kernodle (20) and Ethan Chapin (20). The four were killed in a Moscow rental home at 1122 King Road in the early morning hours that Sunday in November.

While I have always thought that Kohberger had some involvement in the crime, I to this day do not 100 percent believe one individual caused all this carnage.

Kohberger, who was scheduled to go to trial later this summer in Boise, reportedly agreed to a plea deal to avoid the death penalty should he have been convicted and sentenced to death. With the death penalty now reportedly removed, Kohberger is expected to plead guilty and face life in prison without any possible parole or ability to appeal his case.

I know if I were in those shoes, I would max out this case until my last appeal was denied.

We know from recent cases the last few decades that some on trial do walk. Think of O.J. Simpson and Casey Anthony among such well-known cases. Most people think both were guilty of their respective murder charges, yet both ultimately went free.

While there is a fair amount of circumstantial evidence against Kohberger, there are also a number of questions in the state’s case against him.

If you were him tomorrow in a Boise courtroom, would you change your mind and reject the plea deal if not all was signed, sealed and delivered?

I would much rather take my chances with a jury of 12 of my peers than throw in the towel.

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Kohberger to accept plea deal, life in prison without parole

The media has been trained on Idaho the last 24 or so hours.

Most of the focus was on the tragic killing of a couple firefighters who were ambushed while responding to a brush fire in the northwest part of the state.

Turn the page a day and the focus is back on the November 2022 murders of four University of Idaho students at a rental home in Moscow.

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The defendant in the case, former Washington State University grad student Bryan Kohberger, has reportedly offered to plead guilty in exchange for avoiding the death penalty should he had been convicted. The trial in Boise was scheduled to begin Aug. 11.

While I will have more thoughts on this plea deal later this week, what are your initial thoughts?

Is the plea deal the prosecution offered fair to the families of victims Maddie Mogen, Kaylee Goncalves, Xana Kernodle and Ethan Chapin?

Is this justice for the families?

Are the families better off not having to sit through what would have been a painful trial?

More to come….

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What questions would you have as a Kohberger jury member? (Part 2)

We think there will be a trial this August in the State of Idaho vs. Bryan Kohberger quadruple murder case.

It was Nov. 13, 2022 when Kaylee Goncalves, Maddie Mogen, Xana Kernodle and Ethan Chapin were discovered murdered at 1122 King Road in Moscow, Idaho. The slayings of the four University of Idaho students shook the community and beyond. 

Shortly after Christmas, Kohberger, a Washington State University grad student, was arrested across the country in Pennsylvania for the four murders and a charge of felony burglary.

Given Kohberger refused his right to a speedy trial, the case has dragged on some two and a half years. If the trial does begin in early August, it will be a welcome relief for many people.

That said, what questions would you have in this case if you were a sitting jury member later this summer?

Among the questions I would want answered by the prosecution and defense would be the following:

  • Why did BK as it appears take a photo of himself at home in his bathroom only hours after the m*rders took place? I take my share of selfies over time. That said, I know of only one of mine taken in the bathroom and I was being goofy in the photo.
  • Did any female students at Washington State University where BK was a grad student ever report him to be creepy or even st*lking them?
  • Why was a knife used in the m*rders and not a gun? While a gun certainly can make more noise at the moment it is fired, many people can be taken out with a single bullet. A knife attack unless hitting a main artery or slashing the throat tends to be messier and can be noisier. That is especially if the victim is trying to fight back.
  • Is there any video or cell phone photos of Xana and Ethan from approximately 9 p.m. to 1:30 a.m. on Nov. 12-13? They were reportedly at his frat for a period of time. Xana’s dad also supposedly talked to her at some point by phone then.
  • What is it that Maddie supposedly told bartender Adam as has been oftentimes mentioned? Was it something that could have led to one or more individuals wanting to harm her?
  • What is the best guess to the order of the four dying? Knowing the order could better define if one of the four was in fact the intended target.
  • Could any of the four possibly been saved with immediate medical attention? Given all the commotion going on in the middle of the night, was Dylan aware or not something bad had happened? She supposedly saw a masked intruder in the home. If that is true, why not go check on your roommates once safe to do so and not nearly eight hours later? My gut still tells me that one or more of the victims likely bled out. I doubt we will truly ever know if one or more had a chance if given fast help. Even the medical experts can’t say with 100 percent certainty.
  • Finally, why did no neighbors apparently hear or see anything when the m*rders went down? Although the reported timeline was the middle of the night, that neighborhood is very condensed. One would think someone heard or saw something coming from the area of the home.

If you were a juror and talking in a closed sessions with your fellow jurors, what would you want most to know or have clarified before rendering a verdict?

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What questions would you have as a Kohberger jury member? (Part 1)

We think there will be a trial this August in the State of Idaho vs. Bryan Kohberger quadruple murder case.

It was Nov. 13, 2022 when Kaylee Goncalves, Maddie Mogen, Xana Kernodle and Ethan Chapin were discovered murdered at 1122 King Road in Moscow, Idaho. The slayings of the four University of Idaho students shook the community and beyond.

Shortly after Christmas, Kohberger, a Washington State University grad student, was arrested across the country in Pennsylvania for the four murders and a charge of felony burglary.

Given Kohberger refused his right to a speedy trial, the case has dragged on some two and a half years. If the trial does begin in early August, it will be a welcome relief for many people.

That said, what questions would you have in this case if you were a sitting jury member later this summer?

Among the questions I would want answered by the prosecution and defense would be the following:

  • Was Bryan Kohberger infatuated with any of the victims in the home? If yes, which one and why?
  • Had BK ever come in contact with any of the victims before Nov. 13, 2022?
  • Was it common for BK to drive around in the middle of the night? If so, what was typically the reason for this?
  • Why was BK’s phone on prior to the murders and then off for a period of time before going back on?
  • If BK is the correct person charged with these murders, why does it appear he was not injured nor had any known blood in his vehicle or apartment tied to the case?
  • What is the exact timeline police believe these killings took place? While it is possible for one individual to commit such crimes, it has been thought the timeline could be under 15 minutes. That is not much time to cover two floors in relative darkness, meet some resistance, and then do some cleaning up of the scene.
  • What was the order of death for the victims? Although it has been guessed, I do not ever remember seeing exact confirmation of this key detail. Knowing the order could narrow down if in fact one person was targeted or it was a random burglary and murders scene.
  • Why did surviving roommates Dylan Mortensen and Bethany Funke wait nearly 8 hours to call for help? This after Mortensen had reportedly spotted a masked intruder on the second floor during the event.
  • It is alleged that Mortensen heard a male say something along the lines of “It’s OK, I’m going to help you” in relation to words said in the area of Kernodle’s second floor bedroom. Say for a moment that was the killer talking to Kernodle or Chapin who well could have been seriously wounded by now. Would a masked intruder say that to a victim and expect them to believe help had arrived? Why would the killer take the mask off and say that to a victim?
  • What was happening with Kaylee’s dog, Murphy, during the eight or so hours from the believed timeline of the murders to when 911 was called and police arrived? Are we to believe a young dog would simply sleep for the most part through all this?
  • Did neither Mortensen nor Funke go up to the kitchen on the second floor for food all morning before help came? Hard to believe that was the case. If one or both went up to the kitchen, did they not stop and knock on Kernodle’s door or wonder where the two roommates on the third floor were? One of my big questions for many months now, WHY NOT GO AND CHECK/GET THE TWO OLDEST WOMEN IN THE HOUSE DURING ALL THIS TIME? THAT IS ESPECIALLY AFTER SEEING A MASKED INTRUDER IN THE HOME AND ENDLESS CALLS AND TEXTS TO KAYLEE AND MADDIE GOING UNANSWERED. I STILL HAVE NEVER UNDERSTOOD THAT.
  • Why would Kohberger leave a non-death penalty state like Washington and drive across to death penalty state Idaho and allegedly murder four students? Keep in mind Washington State University has around double the student population of the University of Idaho. As such, there would be plenty of female targets for him at Wazzu and even within walking distance. Why risk going across the border on a Saturday night/Sunday morning when local police would be out looking for say drunk drivers, noise offenses etc. on and around the campus in Moscow?

Those are just “some” of the questions I would want answers to. There will be more to come.

So, what questions would you want clear answers to if you served on the jury?

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Will the Dateline episode haunt the defense or prosecution in Kohberger trial?

I finally got chance last evening to watch the recent Dateline on NBC episode of “The Terrible Night on King Road” that aired earlier this month.

Aside from coming up with a rather boring title for this specific show, the episode was nonetheless interesting to say the least.

As someone who has followed the case from day one and stood feet away from the quadruple murder scene on two visits to Moscow back in 2023, I have been drawn to this tragedy.

A single murder case as tragic as it is can be rather riveting to follow. When there are four victims involved and they are college students, you have all the makings of a tragic soap opera. Sadly, this was all too real and not a TV production.

With that in mind, here are a few takes on the two hours of TV I watched last night:

  • Defendant Bryan Kohberger was certainly not painted in any positive light. While he doesn’t deserve any special treatment, NBC all but convicted him in this episode. Moving the summer trial to Boise from Moscow is supposed to improve chances of him getting a fair trial. Finding 12 impartial jurors may well have been made more difficult after this two-hour show.
  • If looking at pictures of women in bikinis online, reading up on serial killer cases, using gloves to handle garbage, being awkward at social events, driving around towns in the middle of the night etc. is considered suspicious and even criminal behavior, most guys and probably even some women would have been locked by now. In fact, our jails and prisons would have been beyond full. I have extensively studied Ted Bundy and Danny Rolling for years now. It does not mean I’m going to go out and knife a number of college students or anyone for that matter.
  • The show gave the theory that the killer started their rampage on the third floor of the home before going back to the second floor. It is alleged that Maddie Mogen and Kaylee Goncalves on the third floor sharing a bed were the first two victims. Upon hearing some commotion upstairs, victim Xana Kernodle began going up the stairs before being confronted with the killer. She was then reportedly chased back to her room and killed along with her boyfriend (Ethan Chapin) who had been spending the night there.
  • Survivors and fellow roommates Dylan Mortensen and Bethany Funke were reportedly awakened by commotion upstairs and scared by it all, yet waited nearly eight hours to call 911. I’ve been over this portion of the case many times before, so no need to rehash all my thoughts. That said, I still do NOT understand and no one has provided a logical reason as to why the two never went to the third floor to check on or get Maddie and Kaylee during all of this. They were the two oldest women in the home and one would think the most responsible. As such, with noise and Dylan claiming she spotted a masked intruder in the home shortly after the four victims were attacked, why would you not go and check on or get the two on the third floor when safe to do so? Being drunk, young women, scared etc. doesn’t cut it for most people.
  • The episode also claims that Dylan partially saw Xana on the floor of her bedroom and allegedly passed out from likely drinking. There is never any mention of lots of blood being seen on or around Xana. If this crime was as brutal as the police and others seem to portray it as, how could Dylan not see any blood? Once again, while I do not think Dylan or Bethany were directly involved, their eight or so hours of actions or rather in-actions are strange and questionable to say the least.
  • Dateline barely mentions that Xana and Ethan were at a frat party on the evening before the killings took place. There have been rumors (take them for what they are worth) that there was an incident at the party that may well have involved Ethan and possibly Xana too. While it may be just a rumor, could something from the party have spilled over hours later to 1122 King Road? While it is certainly possible for one person to do these killings in less than 15 minutes, I still feel multiple people were involved in some manner. If they were, that means one or more are walking free two and a half years later.

If you’ve watched the Dateline episode, what is your take on what you saw? Do you think it could help or hurt either side?

*PLEASE keep in mind this blog is for adult discussion on a tragic case that many of us have become invested in. More than happy to share thoughts on it even if we agree to disagree. What won’t be tolerated is name-calling, rude remarks etc.

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Should Dylan and Bethany testify in the Idaho 4 trial?

The time is ticking closer to what may be the trial of the century to date.Dylan Mortensen and Bethany Funke

When the State of Idaho vs. Bryan Kohberger presumably gets going in early August, it will be close to three years since Maddie Mogen, Kaylee Goncalves, Xana Kernodle, and Ethan Chapin were murdered in a rental home minutes from the main grounds of the University of Idaho. The quadruple slayings have not only gripped a good portion of the U.S. the last two and a half years, they have also garnered worldwide attention.

As another pre-trial hearing was winding down on May 15, one of the focal points the last two-and-half or so years has been the two young women who lived in the home at 1122 King Road along with three of the deceased roommates.

Dylan Mortensen and Bethany Funke were reportedly at home on two different floors when the killings took place.

First we were told the two had been asleep like everyone else supposedly in the home was when the killer/s struck. We later learned that the two had reportedly been texting and calling one another for a period of time prior to sunrise. If the latter is in fact true as phone records appear to indicate, wouldn’t they have some idea of what had tragically taken place on the second and third floors, respectively? Mortensen also told police she had seen a male figure in dark clothing and wearing a mask literally walk right by her as she carefully peered out her bedroom door on the second floor in the early morning hours.

While I have constantly said I do not believe either young woman was directly involved in the murders, I do feel one or both know more details than we have been told. If so, shouldn’t they be compelled to testify this August?

Even though the pair were interviewed by authorities (we know Mortensen was for sure, did they ever submit to a lie detector test if asked? If not, why was one never presented to them?

More interestingly, could it be one or both were not in the home at the time the four victims died? Phone records show the two conversing during what we believe was shortly after the killings took place, but were the two in fact in the home at the time? Could one or both have been nearby but not in fact inside the residence?

Finally, Mortensen claims to have seen a figure in the home with not only dark clothing and a mask, but bushy eyebrows. If the state will try and claim that figure was Kohberger, how reliable would Mortensen’s words be at trial? Reports are she was intoxicated at the time, so take what we’ve been told was her description of what she saw with a grain of salt.

While it is Kohberger and not the two young women on trial this August, Mortensen and Funke may well find themselves in the limelight once again.

So, should either side call the two to testify?

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