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Dialing up 1122 King Road again

It has been a little more than a year since I blogged on the tragic deaths of four University of Idaho students in the early morning hours of Nov. 13, 2022.

More work responsibilities, moving for the first time in 13 years, doing some traveling, and more took up a good chunk of my time over the last year. While things can still be quite hectic at times, I feel I’m in a good enough position now to shoot out some blog posts once again. The case has also picked up recently, meaning there is more news out there to discuss.

I will in an upcoming post talk about the reported knife purchase on Amazon by the defendant a number of months prior to the deaths. For now, I wanted to discuss the 911 call made that morning from 1122 King Road by the two surviving roommates and at least one friend of the victims. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h1p6tPIYrTM

With the 911 call in mind, here are a few thoughts:

  • I go back-and-forth on whether it is truly authentic or was staged. Let’s face it, Dylan and Bethany have had much shade thrown their way over the last two-plus years. Some of it is off the charts ridiculous and some of it is warranted.
  • The 911 operator has taken some flack online for seeming to be uncaring and quite frankly cold. To her defense, she is trained to remain calm and collected during such calls. Given how many times the phone was being passed around at the home that morning, you can’t blame the operator for getting a little tough with the young adults.
  • Hunter says at one point to the young women to get out of the area by Xana’s bedroom. With that in mind, he obviously saw all the carnage in the room. This was obviously more than a young woman passed out from drugs, too much drinking etc.
  • During this call, there is ZERO mention of the two victims on the third floor. It is safe to assume if their vehicles were in the front driveway, both Maddie and Kaylee would be upstairs or nearby. When you find out one of your roommates is not waking up, why no effort to go check on the two upstairs or at least summons them for help? After hearing the entire released 911 call, the fact no one went up to the third floor during that time period bothers me.
  • Assuming the 911 call is introduced at trial, I can see the jury having numerous questions about it. Which side that may favor is up for debate.

What are your thoughts on the 911 call and do you think it could sway the jury one way or the other?

Until next time….

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When will we have a trial?

On a winter afternoon this past Friday, the world learned that we are no closer to a set trial date than we were when the day began.

As the case of the Idaho 4 has moved into 2024, there is no set date for defendant Bryan Kohberger to go on trial. The Pennsylvania native is accused of killings University of Idaho students Kaylee Goncalves, Maddie Mogen, Xana Kernodle and Ethan Chapin the early morning hours of Nov. 13, 2022.

So, with no trial date in the near future, the four families are left with more uncertainty, questions than answers and so on.

At last Friday’s court hearing, the prosecution stated it could be ready for trial as soon as this summer. The state and others were shooting for a summer trial of perhaps six weeks, looking to avoid disruption for nearby Moscow High students, University of Idaho students, and even nearby Washington State University students, about a 10-minute drive across the border in Pullman.

Meantime, the defense has said that it was more inclined to go with a trial later in 2025. According to lead attorney Anne Taylor, there is no way those defending Kohberger could successfully review all the evidence (videos, photos, testimony from the experts on the case etc.) by this summer.

As it stands now, we are no closer to a trial than when we headed into last Friday’s court hearing, one of several that day.

While each of these teams (prosecution, defense) do not employ tons of people, one would think there are enough available to review all the relevant pieces of the puzzle and have a trial ready to go by this summer. While I do not feel this a delay tactic by the defense team, I do think that it is feasible to get the work done in time to go to trial later this year. Although I do understand the desire to avoid a trial while classes are in session at nearby schools, we might be a little too fixated on summer schedules. If the trial has to go on in the fall of 2024 or even next winter or spring, do it.

Finally, thoughts and prayers go out to the families of the four victims. No parent, sister, brother etc. should have to sit in limbo as they wait for their loved ones to hopefully get justice. Whether Kohberger is the killer or there are others out there involved, justice needs to come to the families sooner than later.

For those following the case, do you think a trial would be feasible by this summer or do you agree that later in 2025 is a more reasonable date?

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What is the one piece of evidence you most want to see?

As we patiently await a trial in the murders of the Idaho 4, news coming out of the case is slow. Of course much of this is the result of the gag order in place.

Keep in mind there are two scheduled hearings for this coming Friday (Jan. 26), One is open for the public and the other is slated to be a closed-door session.

Of the two slated hearings, one is supposed to hopefully come to terms on a date for the trial of accused murderer Bryan Kohberger. Although the summer of 2024 has been mentioned numerous times now as the potential trial date start, don’t hold your breath.

With that in mind, the evidence brought to bear at the trial will of course go a long way in determining if the Pennsylvania native and former Washington State University criminology department teaching assistant is found guilty or not.

So, is there one piece of evidence you are clearly looking for so that you can feel more confident police and prosecutors in fact have the right guy behind bars?

For me, I would need one or more of the following:

  1. Star witness – Is there someone who can place him in the home at 1122 King Road at the time of the murders? To date, no one has been able to do this. With all due respect to surviving roommate Dylan Mortensen, she did not clearly identify the individual she claims to have seen walk by her as she had her bedroom door open. The masked intruder was reportedly tall, had bushy eyebrows, and was wearing dark clothing. As you can see, hardly a 100 percent accurate description of the defendant.
  2. Murder weapon – Unless police have it under wraps, the murder weapon to the best of our knowledge has not been located. Having that key piece of evidence and any notable fingerprints on it would go a long way in convicting someone. While the touch DNA on the knife sheath is of course of interest to many, it can be explained away in a number of ways by the defense. Stop for a moment and think about how much of your touch DNA gets spread around your home, office, businesses you visit and the like on a daily basis.
  3. DNA under the nails of the victims – Once again, the gag order has prevented a large amount of evidence in the case from making the light of day. As a result, we are all speculating on what evidence there may or may not be. Assuming tests were done on the hands of the four victims, did any of them have DNA from the accused murderer under their fingernails? That would obviously be a key point of evidence the state could use to try and convict Kohberger.
  4. Defendant vehicle at the scene – There has been a lot of talk that Kohberger’s vehicle circled the area of the home in the hours and minutes leading up to the murders. Do police and prosecutors have his vehicle clearly identified in the vicinity of the home? That would include either his Pennsylvania license plate (back of car only since the Commonwealth does not have front plates) clearly visible or him behind the wheel. Even if they do have such evidence, I doubt it would lead 12 jurors to vote guilty on that alone. I’ve circled places of interest countless times over the years of four decades of driving. It obviously does not make me a murderer in doing so.
  5. Victim hair, possessions etc. in his apartment – With the gag order in place, it makes it all the more difficult to know what was taken from Kohberger’s apartment in Pullman early last year. Did they find any hair from the victims there? Were any possessions of the victims discovered in the home? What was on the defendant’s computer and cell phone? These of course will be things we hope to find out at trial.

While we will hopefully get a better sense of a trial date at this Friday’s court session, we will still be left with many questions. One of those big questions of course is what evidence the state has against the accused murderer.

As someone following the case, what one piece of evidence are you looking for?

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Will the University of Idaho ultimately regret taking down the home prematurely?

No doubt last Thursday’s (Dec. 28) tearing down the home at 1122 King Road evoked emotions.

Some were quite happy to see the home be razed. Given the unspeakable crime that happened there in the early morning hours of Nov. 13, 2022, some people had hoped the home would have been long gone before last Thursday.

For others, keeping the home standing through the eventual finale of a trial of defendant Bryan Kohberger was the way to go. Why risk even a slight chance of tearing down the home if it could open up a possibility of Kohberger getting off either altogether or at the appellate level should he be convicted at some point?

I have been consistent from early on saying the home should stand through a trial.

Yes, I get that it was an eyesore and did bring out emotions in many people in the neighborhood and those able to see the home in the distance.

Even with that in mind, I feel the University of Idaho made a big mistake in signing off on the home’s demise.

According to Idaho law, a jury would not have been authorized to visit the inside of the home given how altered it had become. That then leads to the question…. why was the inside so drastically changed during the state’s investigation? Sure, forensics and so on are key whenever a murder (let alone four) happens in a place. On the flip side of the coin, why was the home so drastically altered inside? If the murders were confined to the two bedrooms (one on each of the floors) as we have been told, why the need to rip out floorboards, walling and so on? We were also told early on the four victims were sleeping at the time of the killings. If so, doubtful any of them made it out of their beds alive to struggle, try and get away etc.

While I am not a conspiracy theorist in general, I do question the reported notable altering of the home by the state and its investigators. Given the long-standing gag order being in place, what other many nuggets are we going to be surprised to hear about come trial?

I’ve watched countless interviews with legal experts and law enforcement folks (many of whom are now retired and are called in by TV stations and others) over the months, notably when it came to discussing taking down the home. Not many of them thought it was a smart move by the U of I to tear it down when a jury has not even been selected and of course a trial has not taken place. For example, check out: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y_XNqYBHqoM

The old adage about better to have it and not need it than need it and not have it rings very true.

As for the reported cost of $700 a day for the U of I to keep the home up, hey, who wants to waste money? On the other hand, that is like a few dollars to most of us when comparing our bank accounts to the school’s financial records.

Imagine for a moment if BK ultimately is either not convicted at trial or wins on an appellate ruling. President Scott Green can then tell the four families how his decision to take the home down before a trial finishes may well have played a part in BK walking at some point.

While it has been pointed out the families were split on tearing down the home early, those against it would have every right to raise their hands up and salute Green minus four fingers showing.

So, would you have left the home up through the trial or did the school do the right thing?

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Thursday proved a sad day at 1122 King Road

It is safe to say emotions have been high for many individuals when it comes to the case of the Idaho 4.

Whether you think defendant Bryan Kohberger is guilty or not guilty, he is not the focal point. The focal point to most of us has and always will be Kaylee, Maddie, Xana and Ethan.

These four young adults in no way deserved what happened to them in the early morning hours of Nov. 13, 2022. To have their promising futures taken away from them in such a harsh manner is not something you’d wish on your worst enemy.

Against that backdrop, one of the biggest days to date in this case took place Thursday in Moscow, Idaho.

Yes, the home at 1122 King Road is no more. Several pieces of construction equipment took the rental home to the ground in a matter of a few hours. With it, so many good memories and not what took place on Nov. 13 one year ago came crashing to the ground.

Whether you were fully in support of the home being torn down, leaving it up or maybe were on the fence about it, you likely had some reaction on Thursday if invested in the case.

I have said repeatedly that the home should stand until the end of the trial. Better to have it if you need it than not have it if needed as so many people have noted in the last 24 hours.

Having been to the home (outside) twice this year, I fully understand the eyesore it was, especially to those living immediately in its shadow. No doubt seeing it daily was a painful reminder to those having to look at it up close or a block etc. away.

It is important to remember the home was NOT smack dab in the middle of the campus. This narrative by the University of Idaho administrators that the large percentage of students saw it daily is not true. It would be a totally different scenario if the house were next to the campus bookstore, library etc.

It has also been documented that the four families were split on the home coming down. Some of the comments directed specifically towards Steve and Kristi Goncalves I’ve seen in chat forums are nothing short of despicable. Whether you agree with these parents or not, for God’s sake have a little dignity and give them the chance to grieve what happened on Thursday let alone the last year. While their daughter died in that home along with three of her best friends, she also had many happy times there too.

In closing, I hope that the trial takes place sooner than later, the right person is ultimately convicted no matter who it is, and that the four families know how much support they have out there.

Thursday was a tough day for many people seeing what was once a home of a lot of joy and happiness be reduced to rubble.

At the end of the day, the University of Idaho administration can for now sleep better in knowing it buried a bad PR matter that may ultimately come back to haunt it.

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Some You Tubers have already convicted Kohberger

Having been in the media industry for more than three decades, I’ve always been a big supporter of the First Amendment for obvious reasons.

Although some things allowed to be said under that all-important First Amendment can be downright offensive and more, people have a right in this country to state their opinions.

With that in mind, there have been a ton of opinions both online and offline over the last 13 months as it relates to the Idaho 4 killings in the small university town of Moscow on Nov. 13, 2022.

While the deaths of Kaylee Goncalves, Maddie Mogen, Xana Kernodle and Ethan Chapin should always be the prime focus, we can’t rule out the importance of the defendant, Bryan Kohberger, being able to get a fair trial at the end of the day.

Imagine for a moment if we lived in a society where people by law were deemed to be guilty until proven innocent. The country we love so much would likely cease to exist as we know it.

So, it is often with a grain of salt that I watch and/or listen to videos such as the one by Gray Hughes – https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WaBMiuvzhSg.

Of course Hughes has every right to tout their views, albeit speculation at best. However, the bias by which Hughes has all but convicted Kohberger of the crime is striking. Watch and listen to the video and you will be hard-pressed to hear the words alleged or allegedly uttered by this latest You Tuber video.

Having watched/listened to the video twice, a few thoughts on my end:

1. Kohberger is innocent until proven guilty by 12 of his peers – Even if you are 100 percent convinced Kohberger did it (your right of course), we do not convict people on social media. We can speculate about their actions, have opinions and so on. Even with all that, it is a jury or in some cases a judge with the ultimate say. If Kohberger is in fact found guilty in a court of law, by all means throw the book at him. In the meantime, don’t be shocked given all the social media posts and more that his defense team attempts to get the trial moved elsewhere. While I think the trial should take place in the town where the crimes were committed, it may be all but impossible for the defendant to get a fair one given all the online bias directed towards him.

2. Nine minutes is possible but how likely? – The You Tuber says they believe Kohberger committed these heinous crimes in under nine minutes. Sure, anything is possible if you stop and think about it. On the flip side of the coin, that is a terribly short time to take out four people, even those who’d been drinking. There has been this assumption online for many months now that all four victims were so intoxicated they would have been unable to fight back. Let me set the record straight and assure you that some people under the influence of alcohol can indeed fight back when their physical well-being is on the line. In fact, I would argue a drunk person could be more dangerous to the unpredictability of what they’re going to do. If we go off the assumption that Mogen and Goncalves were in the same bed sleeping or falling off to sleep, one or both of them could have screamed, fought back etc. That would be enough to potentially awaken people on the floor below them and arouse Kaylee’s dog in the other room on the third floor. The perp would likely have met some resistance from Goncalves, especially given the fact her father said her wounds were different from Mogen’s. When you examine the two deaths on the second floor (Chapin, Kernodle), one can at least ponder the fact one or both fought back, screamed etc. Given it was reported Kernodle had defensive wounds, she may well have put up a fight, further delaying the perp from exiting the home. While there have been references to Ted Bundy etc. and how simple it would be to take out one or more victims in a short span of time, there is nothing to indicate that this crime was anything like what the notorious serial killer did decades ago. 

3. Dylan Mortensen needs to take the stand at trial – Finally, I’ve been very clear from early on that I do not think roommate Dylan Mortensen pictured on left with fellow roommate Bethany Funke)  had
a role in these killings. There has been no evidence to date that shows any involvement on her part. With that in mind, her being cleared by law enforcement early on does NOT mean she has a free pass. If any new evidence comes to light that she did have a role to play, she of course could be looked at again. It blows my mind when her defenders get all in a tizzy about how she was cleared and no one can ponder any potential role she might have played in these tragic deaths. Again, my issue with Mortensen is not that she allegedly took part in these killings (I say she did not) but that she was negligent not checking on her roommates after reportedly opening her second floor bedroom door THREE times during the span of a number of minutes. Something or things obviously got her attention to do this. As such, most people would have checked on their roommates either via text or knocking on their bedroom doors once safe to do so. She may well have not been able to save any lives, but we will never know. Even the coroner and medical examiner can only guess at the approximate time the victims died. If they come out at trial and conclusively show how one stab wound was fatal and in a short amount of time, then we can put to rest the speculation of could any of the victims been saved or at least had a fighting chance with immediate medical attention. Keep in mind Mortensen said in the PCA that she saw an individual wearing a mask and that they had bushy eyebrows among other things. Okay, WHY would you not call 911 or at the very least check on your roommates once safe to do so after seeing a masked individual in your home? The mask was not due to a frat prank, it being bitterly cold outside (temp around the time of the killings was anywhere from 28-32 degrees) or even COVID. Use some logic and know that seeing a masked individual in your home around 4:20 ish in the morning is NOT normal. 

As we wind down 2023 and hopefully move a step closer to trial in 2024, will the defendant get his right to a fair trial or has he in essence already been convicted?

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Tearing down 1122 King Road is big mistake; What is the University of Idaho trying to hide?

Things have been relatively quiet in the Idaho 4 case for the most part over the last month or so.

While there have been some court tidbits that popped out, most of the news has in fact been no news. That is until Thursday when it was announced the home at 1122 would begin to undergo demolition on Dec. 28. That date was likely picked given the University of Idaho and its students will be on holiday break.

So, what is the rush to tear the home down when the trial date has not even been announced?

Having been to the home (outside of course) several times this year, I can tell you first-hand it is a totally different feel seeing it for your own eyes and walking around the outside perimeter (front and back) than it is seeing on television, online videos and pictures etc.

While the home has been altered to a degree inside since its five residents lived there, it can still prove valuable should a jury request and receive approval from the judge to tour it.

As for claims it is a biohazard, how many people have been in and out of that home in the last few months conducting tests etc? Were any of them wearing biohazard suits? The answer of course is no.

I’ve met several people from the University of Idaho this year during my two trips to Moscow. I can say that those I met were upstanding people and I would have nothing but good things to say about them no matter their role on the campus.

All that being said, here are a few of my takes on taking down the home starting Dec. 28:

* What’s the rush? – I get that neighbors (including some U of I students) have to see the home on a daily basis as they come and go around the neighborhood. That said, there are not thousands of students, staff etc. seeing the home daily. That is because it is NOT directly on campus. While we do not know the exact date of when the trial will start, leaving the home up is not going to hurt the majority of people tied to the U of I.

* Does the U of I administration give a damn about the four families? – It would appear the higher-ups at the U of I do not give a damn about the four families – Goncalves, Mogen, Kernodle, Chapin. They put out nice press releases etc. saying they do. If they really cared about the loved ones, they’d abide by the wishes of most of them whom want the home to remain standing until the end of the trial. Giving the families lip service is the ultimate slap in the face to those already suffering with the loss of their loved ones. Do us all a favor and stop with the press statements that you feel for the four families and understand their suffering etc. Quite frankly you don’t understand or care.

* Are you trying to hide something? – What remains in that home that is of concern to university officials and others tied to the case? – The home is secured 24 hours a day, seven days a week by campus security, boards on the windows, locks on doors etc. If you are saying security is an issue, put that fear to the side. While the home still needs security, heat, electricity, water etc. do not tell me the University of Idaho can’t afford those bills.

* What will be the outcry if defendant gets off on technicality or is even found not guilty due to home being torn down? – Finally, imagine the outcry from the Bryan Kohberger haters if he gets off on a technicality or is even found not guilty because a juror did not get to personally see the inside of the home (if the judge granted such a request) and thus could not convict the defendant. We know there will be countless photos, 3-D imaging etc, present at trial. That said, those are NOT the same as actually physically being in the home for most jurors. Being able to experience the home if allowed to would be a unique experience for a juror that thousands of photos and other images can’t provide. Looking at the rooms where the killings took place albeit without furniture etc. where Dylan allegedly was staying, the distance between rooms, the overall layout etc. There is still a lot there to see.

In conclusion, why not wait until the end of the school year (spring) and then make a decision on demolition? Who knows, we may get lucky and have a trial by then? 

While I would like to give the administration at the U of I the benefit of the doubt, this demolition in two weeks is nothing short of shady. Is there something in that home you do not want public?

So, would you leave the home up until the trial concludes if it were up to you?

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Could you convict Kohberger with what you know now?

The sad one-year anniversary of the deaths of the Idaho 4 took place on a Monday morning last month.

As we head into the holiday season, not much has changed with the case.

Of most note recently was the decision by the judge to limit cameras in the courtroom once a trial does start, notably press cameras. Instead, the court will control the camera feeds and not the various media outlets covering the event.

I have no issue with this, especially given I fully support cameras in the courtroom at any trial. Not having cameras there would open up even more theories of wrongdoing by authorities and others. With cameras in the courtroom, the public can for one see their tax dollars at work. Having that transparency and not having a blackout on coverage is the only way most of us can trust the system.

Speaking of the system, it goes without saying that countless documents, pictures, videos and more have been submitted over the last year. Many of these items will be used to try and convict Bryan Kohberger for the murders of Kaylee Goncalves, Maddie Mogen, Xana Kernodle and Ethan Chapin.

While there is likely still a lot of evidence the public is not aware of, we’ve gotten glimpses into the case from both a prosecution and defense perspective.

With that in mind, could you convict Kohberger with what you know if you were a juror sitting in on the case?

For me, I do not have enough evidence to date to convict him, especially with the death penalty sitting there on the table.

Among the things I would need from the prosecution to be more inclined to convict would include:

  • Clear video or eyewitness evidence of his vehicle with either him behind the wheel or his Pennsylvania license plate clearly seen leaving the scene from 1122 King Road. Keep in mind we have not seen such to date.
  • Clear video or eyewitness evidence of him leaving the home right after the killings took place. Keep in mind we have not seen such to date.
  • Any social media evidence that clearly shows he targeted one or more of the victims. To date, no such evidence has been put out there that I am aware of.

There is no doubt circumstantial evidence that the prosecution will rely on. With that to think about, people do get convicted on such evidence, so it is quite possible there could emerge a guilty verdict.

On the flip side of the coin, the defense will no doubt poke holes in what to me is a marginal conviction case at this point.

So, would you convict Kohberger today with what you know or do you need more to send him to a guilty verdict?

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Your heart breaks for Ben Mogen and the other families

I have been in the media business for 30+ years.

During that time, I’ve had the opportunity to interview famous athletes, celebrities, politicians and countless others.

While I’ve been fortunate to have such opportunities, often the most fulfilling interviews are those with the everyday individual. More times than not, they’re just happy to get their stories out in front in the public. For example, having had the chance to go to Louisiana and several surrounding states many years ago to interview survivors from Hurricane Katrina who literally had nothing left but the clothes on their backs.

With that in mind, I had a chance this week to watch an interview done with Maddie Mogen’s father. I’ve also watched interviews with the parents of Kaylee Goncalves and Ethan Chapin. Unless I missed it, I have not seen any interviews done with the Kernodle family (Xana) noting the one-year anniversary of the tragic killings of the Idaho 4.

While I can say I have seen thousands of interviews over the years and done my fair share of them, the interview on KREM2 with Ben Mogen struck me.

Sure, we can argue until pigs fly over who is responsible for these killings, what went down at 1122 King Road in the early morning hours of Nov. 13, 2022 and more. At the end of the day, we will oftentimes agree to disagree on what we think took place.

While a trial is necessary and convicting the right person is so important, watching the interview with Ben Mogen made me forget all about disagreements over the case, having a trial and more.

The interview (see below) was one of the toughest and yet most enjoyable things I have ever watched in my life.

While my heart broke for Ben and I would have loved to be there to give him a hug, I was so happy to see the love he has for his Maddie May and how she returned that love to him. If you get through the segment where he reads the last Father’s Day card he got from her without needing a tissue or two, good luck.

When it all comes down to it, let us NEVER forget the four families involved in this nightmare.

Ben Mogen, you have my deepest respect. Know that so many of us support you and are always going to be there if you need someone to talk to or simply need a hug.

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Remembering Kaylee, Maddie, Xana and Ethan

Monday, Nov. 13 is an anniversary that all of us wish we did not have to note.

It was one year ago on a Sunday morning that four young lives were taken in an off-campus rental house in Moscow, Idaho.

Kaylee Goncalves, Maddie Mogen, Xana Kernodle and Ethan Chapin are names that many of us think of on a regular basis.

As the one-year anniversary rears its ugly head on Monday, it is important to focus on what is important. Yes, those four young adults and finding justice at the end of the day for them and their families should be something we all share.

No doubt many of us have our different thoughts as to what happened to the Idaho 4 at 1122 King Road on a November morning one year ago.

For some, the defendant sitting in a Moscow jail is guilty beyond a reasonable doubt. For others, there are holes in the prosecution’s case that are going to need to be explained beyond a reasonable doubt to convince them the individual is guilty.

While a date for a trial has not been set, there will continue to be plenty of time to discuss the merits of the case and what we think will ultimately happen.

In the meantime, take a moment this weekend and especially as you start your week on Monday to think of the victims.

Bryan Kohberger is not a victim in this case. Surviving roommates Dylan Mortensen and Bethany Funke are not victims in this case. The University of Idaho is not a victim in this case.

There are only four victims in this tragic case and they should be our focus not only at this time of year but always moving forward.

Rest in Peace Kaylee, Maddie, Xana and Ethan.

Know that we will never forget the four of you.

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